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10 Reasons Obama's Presidency is in Meltdown

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« on: August 13, 2010, 10:53:52 pm »

there's a lot more at the link...I edited some out:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100050412/the-stunning-decline-of-barack-obama-10-key-reasons-why-the-obama-presidency-is-in-meltdown/


1. The Obama presidency is out of touch with the American people

In a previous post I noted how the Obama presidency increasingly resembles a modern-day Ancien Régime, extravagant, decaying and out of touch with ordinary Americans. The First Lady’s ill-conceived trip to Spain at a time of widespread economic hardship was symbolic of a White House that barely gives a second thought to public opinion on many issues, and frequently projects a distinctly elitist image. The “let them eat cake” approach didn’t play well over two centuries ago, and it won’t succeed today.

2. Most Americans don’t have confidence in the president’s leadership

3. Obama fails to inspire

In contrast to the soaring rhetoric of his 2004 Convention speech in Boston which succeeded in impressing millions of television viewers at the time, America is no longer inspired by Barack Obama’s flat, monotonous and often dull presidential speeches and statements delivered via teleprompter. From his extraordinarily uninspiring Afghanistan speech at West Point to his flat State of the Union address, President Obama has failed to touch the heart of America. Even Jimmy Carter was more moving.

4. The United States is drowning in debt

5. Obama’s Big Government message is falling flat

6. Obama’s support for socialised health care is a huge political mistake

7. Obama’s handling of the Gulf oil spill has been weak-kneed and indecisive

8. US foreign policy is an embarrassing mess under the Obama administration

9. President Obama is muddled and confused on national security

10. Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness

Barack Obama has made it clear that he doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism, and has made apologising for his country into an art form. In a speech to the United Nations last September he stated that “no one nation can or should try to dominate another nation. No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed. No balance of power among nations will hold.” It is difficult to see how a US president who holds these views and does not even accept America’s greatness in history can actually lead the world’s only superpower with force and conviction.

There is a distinctly Titanic-like feel to the Obama presidency and it’s not hard to see why. The most left-wing president in modern American history has tried to force a highly interventionist, government-driven agenda that runs counter to the principles of free enterprise, individual freedom, and limited government that have made the United States the greatest power in the world, and the freest nation on earth.

This, combined with weak leadership both at home and abroad against the backdrop of tremendous economic uncertainty in an increasingly dangerous world, has contributed to a spectacular political collapse for a president once thought to be invincible. America at its core remains a deeply conservative nation, which cherishes its traditions and founding principles. President Obama is increasingly out of step with the American people, by advancing policies that undermine the United States as a global power, while undercutting America’s deep-seated love for freedom.

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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2010, 11:24:05 pm »

Exactly!  and if this were a Letterman top ten list, the number one reason is very close to the first listed....HE IS NOT LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2010, 11:28:09 pm »

Exactly!  and if this were a Letterman top ten list, the number one reason is very close to the first listed....HE IS NOT LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE!  Roll Eyes
that and he doesnt' BELIEVE in this country.  Angry
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2010, 08:12:31 am »

And now he's advocating allowing the enemy to place structures of triumph at the site of their destructive act of war against the USA. He has GOT to go in 2012. I was trying to give him a chance, but this latest thing is the straw that broke my camel's back. I don't know if he can redeem himself at all from this and all the other things on the list.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2010, 08:19:53 am »

And now he's advocating allowing the enemy to place structures of triumph at the site of their destructive act of war against the USA. He has GOT to go in 2012. I was trying to give him a chance, but this latest thing is the straw that broke my camel's back. I don't know if he can redeem himself at all from this and all the other things on the list.

he isnt' interested in trying, I dont' believe.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2010, 02:30:39 pm »

And now he's advocating allowing the enemy to place structures of triumph at the site of their destructive act of war against the USA. He has GOT to go in 2012. I was trying to give him a chance, but this latest thing is the straw that broke my camel's back. I don't know if he can redeem himself at all from this and all the other things on the list.

the cover story of Newsweek (I think) this week is on the mosque subject. the headline is "testing tolerance".

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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2010, 07:23:36 am »

And now he's advocating allowing the enemy to place structures of triumph at the site of their destructive act of war against the USA. He has GOT to go in 2012. I was trying to give him a chance, but this latest thing is the straw that broke my camel's back. I don't know if he can redeem himself at all from this and all the other things on the list.


The gods forbid he actually openly support the Consitution.

What do you expect an American president to do?  I mean Dubya openly flouted the Constitution, and ignored it, is that what Americans want?

The site where the mosque center is to be built is already where Muslims have been worshipping for several years now.  It just doesn't LOOK like a mosque.

Is that the difference people care about?

Personally, I don't think it's a wise decision to build one there either, but unfortunately it's not up to me.  It's the law and I - as an American - couldn't stop them without breaking the spirit of the law.

How about you?  What are you willing to break? 
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2010, 08:21:49 am »


It's the law and I - as an American - couldn't stop them without breaking the spirit of the law.

How about you?  What are you willing to break? 


Seems Obama is pretty selective about the laws he upholds. Why is he suing Arizona for apparently upholding federal law for example?

That is not the basis upon which he is acting. It is clear he sees himself as empathiser in chief for minorities not Americans as a whole. He seems to have a tin ear where their feelings are concerned. Same goes for America's traditional allies. More often than not they have found themselves on the outer while Obama goes out of his way to court countries that have thumbed their nose at America in the past.

IMO Obama has always seen himself as an outsider so he genuinely does empathise with illegal immigrants, Muslims and others as against the great mass of mainstream America. It is becoming so embarassingly obvious that this is the case that people cease to think it remarkable any more. That doesn't mean to say they are not getting increasingly pissed off with the situation.




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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 09:05:13 am »

Obama is suing Arizona?
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2010, 10:03:24 am »

10. Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness
This is why he fails. Obama and his crew do not believe in American Exceptionalism. No one can lead this nation and not believe in American Exceptionalism. This is basic, and has never been an issue before with any of our previous Presidents. Even Jimmy Carter, while in office, behaved as if he believed in our exceptional role as a nation. After leaving the office his true self has been revealed. But Obama seeks from the gitgo to not mask his disdain and dislike of the American experience. One wonders why he was even interested in attempting national leadership. Surely his sense of entitlement arrogance is not so great that he was convinced that he could change 200 plus years of history and political ethos by just showing up. It would be laughable if the consequences weren't so frightening.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2010, 11:06:57 am »


The gods forbid he actually openly support the Consitution.

What do you expect an American president to do?  I mean Dubya openly flouted the Constitution, and ignored it, is that what Americans want?

The site where the mosque center is to be built is already where Muslims have been worshipping for several years now.  It just doesn't LOOK like a mosque.

Is that the difference people care about?

Personally, I don't think it's a wise decision to build one there either, but unfortunately it's not up to me.  It's the law and I - as an American - couldn't stop them without breaking the spirit of the law.

How about you?  What are you willing to break? 


This has nothing to do with laws, the Constitution or anything else "legal". It has all to do with appropriateness, consideration, dignity, sensitivity, and properness. Just as a neo nazi group may have the legal right to build a 'worship' place next to a jewish cemetery or the wailing wall in jersusalem, it's not given a pass because it's inappropriate. Just as the reverend Falwell would have had every right to force his presence at an AIDS quilt gathering, it would have been unfitting a place to make his point.

The Ground Zero area is 'hallowed ground'. Perhaps not to some, but they actually don't count, just like those who consider Auschwitz not to be hallowed ground don't count.

As hallowed ground, the area represents a place that is afforded sensitivity considerations that are not based on legalities, rather common decencies which have been in common use in this country and worldwide for centuries.

The mere fact that this mosque and its supporters rely solely on their legal rights underscores, imho, the fact that this is about poking us in the eye with their middle finger.
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2010, 01:22:27 pm »

Hi HK, I'm taking your response to the new thread on Current Events to respond.
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