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« on: March 16, 2016, 06:28:21 pm »



http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/16/we-choose-the-nominee-not-the-voters-senior-gop-official.html   



We choose the nominee, not the voters: Senior GOP official

Matthew J. Belvedere

Curly Haugland, RNC Rules Committee, and Gary Emineth, former chairman of the North Dakota Republican Party, talk about Republican convention rules and why it could lead to a contested convention.


Political parties, not voters, choose their presidential nominees, a Republican convention rules member told CNBC, a day after GOP front-runner Donald Trump rolled up more big primary victories.

"The media has created the perception that the voters choose the nomination. That's the conflict here," Curly Haugland, an unbound GOP delegate from North Dakota, told CNBC's "Squawk Box" on Wednesday. He even questioned why primaries and caucuses are held.

Haugland is one of 112 Republican delegates who are not required to cast their support for any one candidate because their states and territories don't hold primaries or caucuses.


Even with Trump's huge projected delegate haul in four state primaries Tuesday, the odds are increasing the billionaire businessman may not ultimately get the 1,237 delegates needed to claim the GOP nomination before the convention.

This could lead to a brokered convention, in which unbound delegates, like Haugland, could play a significant swing role on the first ballot to choose a nominee.

Most delegates bound by their state's primary or caucus results are only committed on the first ballot. If subsequent ballots are needed, virtually all of the delegates can vote any way they want, said Gary Emineth, another unbound delegate from North Dakota.

"It could introduce Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, or it could be the other candidates that have already been in the race and are now out of the race [such as] Mike Huckabee [or] Rick Santorum. All those people could eventually become candidates on the floor," Emineth said.

House Speaker Paul Ryan, who decided not to run for the White House this year, said in a CNBC interview Tuesday he won't categorically rule out accepting the GOP nomination if a deadlocked convention were to turn to him. But on Wednesday, a Ryan spokeswoman said the speaker would not accept a Republican nomination for president at a divided convention.

Democrats experienced the last true brokered presidential convention to go beyond the first ballot in 1952. Republicans came close at their 1976 convention.


"The rules haven't kept up," Haugland said. "The rules are still designed to have a political party choose its nominee at a convention. That's just the way it is. I can't help it. Don't hate me because I love the rules."

Haugland said he sent a letter to each campaign alerting them to a rule change he's proposing, which would allow any candidate who earns at least one delegate during the nominating process to submit his or her name to be nominated at this summer's convention.

If the GOP race continues at the same pace, Trump would likely have a plurality of delegates. So far, he's more than halfway to the 1,237 magic number.

Trump split Tuesday's winner-take-all primaries in Florida and Ohio.

The real estate mogul dominated in Florida over Sen. Marco Rubio, who dropped out of the race after losing his home state.

But Trump lost Ohio to the state's governor, John Kasich. Trump also won Illinois and North Carolina. He held a slim lead over Texas Sen. Ted Cruz in Missouri early Wednesday.

Emineth, also a former chairman of the North Dakota Republican Party, told "Squawk Box" in the same interview that he's concerned about party officials pulling "some shenanigan."

"You have groups of people who are going to try to take over the rules committee," he warned. "[That] could totally change everything, and mess things up with the delegates. And people across the country will be very frustrated."

"It's important that the Republican National Committee has transparency on what they're doing [on the rules] going into the convention and what happens in the convention," he continued. That's because of "all the votes that have been cast in caucuses and primaries. Don't disenfranchise those voters. Because at the end of the day, our goal is to beat Hillary Clinton or whoever their [Democratic] nominee is in November."


Emineth said he's worried that frustration would discourage Americans in the general election from voting Republican.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 06:42:08 pm »

Merci Arcadien,

Obviously Obama and Clintons and such gangs... are they making such propaganda that even decent republicans will even FEAR to vote Republican ?


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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2016, 12:38:35 pm »

the Clinton crime family is very dangerous
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2016, 08:01:08 am »

Merci Arcadien,

To the whole world and more than once, Clinton said on all TV networks, that he did NOT have sex with who was it ? - It was not his wife !!!

So to have a Clinton, means to be lying ? Or to have sex outside your marriage?

Poor Lady Clinton was slaved too in another way: Obama pushed her out of his way ?

At least, Trump divorced ?

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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2016, 09:59:35 pm »

Merci Arcadien,

To the whole world and more than once, Clinton said on all TV networks, that he did NOT have sex with who was it ? - It was not his wife !!!

So to have a Clinton, means to be lying ? Or to have sex outside your marriage?

Poor Lady Clinton was slaved too in another way: Obama pushed her out of his way ?

At least, Trump divorced ?

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the problem with Clinton wasn't his adulteries, it was his lying before a federal grand jury. that got him disbarred in his state of Arkansas and he should have been removed from office when he went on trial for impeachment in 1999.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2016, 07:26:45 am »

We choose the nominee, not the voters: Senior GOP official

If they don't give the voters who they want at the convention, Republicans will stay home during the general election, and Hillary wins.

Fuck that.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2016, 07:54:18 am »

If they don't give the voters who they want at the convention, Republicans will stay home during the general election, and Hillary wins.

Fuck that.

but it would be interesting to see the reaction of people when they realize this whole charade of voting in primaries is just that: a charade.

a waste of time and money
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2016, 10:11:47 pm »

If they don't give the voters who they want at the convention, Republicans will stay home during the general election, and Hillary wins.

Fuck that.
we agree! if the RNC thru chicanery deprive the candidate with the highest delegate count of the nomination (and that is likely to be either Trump or Cruz) many of us will be highly unlikely to support the Republican party in the future.

Trump is on track to amass around 1250 - 1300 delegates, assuming there are no major changes (1237 needed to win). the states that have still not voted, will likely favor Trump, and the polls show him with great momentum in delegate rich NY, NJ, PA and CA.

Cruz is likely to have around 700- 800 at the end of the process

but if the situation is reversed and Cruz comes in with near majorities and the RNC steals the nomination from him, I would feel the same way as I would if Trump were deprived of the nomination he earned.
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