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« on: March 23, 2016, 07:34:03 am »

Is this a good tactic and would it be enough, according to you ?
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Ted Cruz slammed for calling for increased patrols in Muslim neighbourhoods

http://www.cp24.com/world/ted-cruz-slammed-for-calling-for-increased-patrols-in-muslim-neighbourhoods-1.2828993

Republican presidential candidate, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas pauses while speaking to the media about events in Brussels, Tuesday, March 22, 2016, near the Capitol in Washington. Cruz said he would use the "full force and fury" of the U.S. military to defeat the Islamic

DEARBORN, Mich. -- Presidential candidate Ted Cruz's call for increased surveillance in Muslim neighbourhoods following the deadly bombings in Brussels drew sharp rebukes from Muslim Americans and civil rights groups, who panned the Republican's proposal as unconstitutional and counterproductive.

Cruz said Tuesday that law enforcement should be empowered to "patrol and secure Muslim neighbourhoods before they become radicalized." Echoing earlier statements from rival Donald Trump, Cruz also said the U.S. should stop the flow of refugees from countries where the Islamic State militant group has a significant presence. IS claimed responsibility for the attacks at the Brussels airport and a subway station that killed dozens Tuesday and wounded many more.

Muslims across the county and groups including the Council on American-Islamic Relations and the Anti-Defamation League condemned Cruz's statements, but many said his reaction was nothing new. Advocacy groups have said for months that the Islamic extremist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino and the intensifying rhetoric in the presidential campaign have ratcheted up animosity against American Muslims.

"We believe we are part of the society. We have the same ideology as mainstream Americans," said Osman Ahmed, a resident of a Somali neighbourhood in Minneapolis. "I don't think the ideology of surveillance of a Muslim community neighbourhood is the right thing to do. That will send a message that Muslim Americans are not a part of American society ... and that's the message that terrorism groups are willing to hear."

Trump, who has proposed a temporary ban on foreign Muslims entering the U.S, praised Cruz's plan as a "good idea" that he supports "100 per cent" in an interview with CNN. The Republican front-runner also intensified his past calls for the U.S. to engage in harsher interrogation techniques, arguing that Belgium could have prevented the bombings had it tortured a suspect in last year's Paris attacks who was arrested last week.

Speaking Tuesday afternoon in New York, Cruz praised the city's police department's former program of conducting surveillance in Muslim neighbourhoods, called for its reinstatement and said it could be a model for police departments nationwide.

"New Yorkers want a safe and secure America," Cruz said. "New Yorkers saw firsthand the tragic consequences of radical Islamic terrorism."

After the 9-11 attacks, the New York Police Department used its intelligence division to cultivate informants and conduct surveillance in Muslim communities. In a series of articles, The Associated Press revealed the intelligence division had infiltrated dozens of mosques and Muslim student groups and investigated hundreds. The program was disbanded amid complaints of religious and racial profiling.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, the nation's largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization, condemned the call for surveillance, saying it sends "an alarming message to American-Muslims who increasingly fear for their future in this nation."

The Anti-Defamation League, a U.S. group that battles anti-Semitism worldwide, said Cruz's plan harkens back to the relocation of Japanese-Americans to internment camps during World War II.

Linda Sarsour, executive director of the Arab American Association of New York, said she fears for armed groups "who are emboldened by the commentary from people like Ted Cruz and Donald Trump."

"What's scaring me more is the kind of potential fueling of these vigilantes and people who might want to take up arms and go patrol Muslim neighbourhoods," she said.

Kebba Kah, 46, who was entering a mosque in the Detroit suburb of Dearborn for evening prayers Tuesday, said the bombings in Brussels were "a very terrible thing." Such attacks are roundly rejected by all Muslims save for "a few radical groups," said Kah, who came to the American Muslim Center after leaving work at Ford Motor Co.

Dearborn is widely known as the hometown of Henry Ford, who hired Arabs and Muslims in the automaker's early days and helped create what is now one of the nation's largest and most concentrated communities of residents who trace their roots to the Middle East.

In Orange County, California's "Little Arabia" neighbourhood just miles from Disneyland, friends Omar Ghanim, 23, and Nas Juma, 22, took a break from a shopping trip Tuesday to eat Lebanese pizza at an eatery tucked into a suburban strip mall.

Flags from Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and other majority Muslim nations fluttered over the mall in a stiff breeze -- but a large American flag flying from the roof was taller than the rest, patrons were quick to point out.

"We're targeted even if it's not our fault," said Ghanim, adding that the Islamic State was not Islam as he understood it.

"They don't follow the Islamic rules or anything Islam," he said. "We're a peaceful people -- we're not violent."

Associated Press writers Gillian Flaccus in Anaheim, California; Vivian Salama, Jill Colvin, Steve Peoples, Ken Thomas, Lisa Lerer and Alan Fram in Washington; Jonathan Lemire and Deepti Hajela in New York; and Steve Karnowski and Amy Forliti in Minneapolis contributed to this report.
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2016, 10:01:20 pm »

I agree with Ted Cruz on this idea.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2016, 07:34:15 am »

I think this is a good idea too. We already have increased patrols in areas with high crime, drug traffic, prostitution, etc. Why not increase our patrols for jihadism? Where I think Cruz went wrong was using the term "Muslim Neighborhoods." We really don't have Muslim neighborhoods in most of America. If anything, most Muslims live right alongside Christians, blacks, whites, and latinos. I would have used a term like "at-risk neighborhoods."
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2016, 07:56:58 am »

I think this is a good idea too. We already have increased patrols in areas with high crime, drug traffic, prostitution, etc. Why not increase our patrols for jihadism? Where I think Cruz went wrong was using the term "Muslim Neighborhoods." We really don't have Muslim neighborhoods in most of America. If anything, most Muslims live right alongside Christians, blacks, whites, and latinos. I would have used a term like "at-risk neighborhoods."

how PC.

Our countries reaction will probably be "Oh there was another attack in Belguim by a group of young Arab looking guys...better step up the screening of old white guys in wheelchairs and little kids so it doesn't happen here!"
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2016, 10:05:01 am »

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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2016, 11:44:47 am »

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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2016, 10:05:21 pm »

its profiling and profiling works. El Al the Israeli national airline has no terrorist incidents because they profile the hell out of Muslims.

Muslims are not uniformly scattered around the nation, they frequently live in identifiable neighborhoods and in certain geographic areas. and certainly, we could easily profile around their mosques. around some of the mosques here in DFW, it is noticed that Muslims will start buying up homes the surrounding neighborhood.  additionally, around those mosques Muslims are buying business properties, in effect creating their own enclaves.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2016, 09:47:36 am »

Merci to all who loves Freedom being "Je suis Charlies" - "Je suis Paris" "Je suis Bruxells",

Ted Cruz starts now to awake too people like Trump !!!

But is that far enough, since such certain Muslims radicals bombing innocent people and seeking to enslave all humanity in the name of a so-called Allah showing that they are thugs only and not religious at all, is that not thought by SOME clerics in a few (too many) mosques even in the USA, Canada, France, Belgium and other places ? Why are these clerics NOT in prison ? Are not countries too much lazy for mosques those certain ones which are murderers disguised in so-called religious gabs ?

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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2016, 02:27:16 pm »

slowly, Americans are waking up to the danger of Islam. sadly, the American political leaders have their heads up their collective ass
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2016, 05:32:53 pm »

Merci Arcadien !


You say:   slowly, Americans are waking up to the danger of Islam   
Why so slow ? Do most people in the USA want another 7/11 ?

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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2016, 07:06:45 pm »

in regard to "another 7/11", we have many "7/11" convenience stores in TX. we don't need any more.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2016, 08:13:35 pm »

The dirty little secret is that everything in life is "profiling". Every product we buy, every show we watch, every click we execute, every doctor visit is data based for a profile that is used for marketing to and for stereotypes. yes, that bad word "stereotypes", ie target demos. Grouping people into groups that display overwhelmingly similar traits and characteristics.

It's counter intuitive that such similarities would only be good. There is no reason why bad or criminal traits ought not be grouped by demographics as well.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2016, 11:05:45 am »

The dirty little secret is that everything in life is "profiling". Every product we buy, every show we watch, every click we execute, every doctor visit is data based for a profile that is used for marketing to and for stereotypes. yes, that bad word "stereotypes", ie target demos. Grouping people into groups that display overwhelmingly similar traits and characteristics.

It's counter intuitive that such similarities would only be good. There is no reason why bad or criminal traits ought not be grouped by demographics as well.

Correct. Its OK for a company to design a product and market it to a black woman on Welfare between the ages of 18 and 24 and assume she will buy it. But somehow it not OK to assume she might steal it.
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2016, 07:23:04 pm »

Excellent point Milo! And pathetic and funny at the same time. 

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