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« on: June 07, 2009, 08:56:31 pm »

Bill help me out...the Labour Party...that is the left in Great Britian right? so this is GOOD news??

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3353098.html?menu=

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Gordon Brown was heading for another mauling in the polls as the first results in the European elections showed a sharp fall in the Labour vote.

With Mr Brown's political survival hanging in the balance, deputy leader Harriet Harman admitted that they were expecting a "very dismal" night.

In Labour's North East heartland - the first region to declare - the party saw its share of the vote drop 9% since the last elections in 2004.

Ms Harman told the BBC: "We are bracing ourselves for very dismal results, there is no doubt about that."

Worryingly for Labour, the UK Independence Party (Ukip) and the far right British National Party both made advances, with their share of the vote increasing by around 3% each.

If Ukip manage to beat Labour into third place or the BNP make a breakthrough and gain their first European seat, it would intensify the pressure on Mr Brown from rebel Labour backbenchers pressing for a leadership challenge.

Ms Harman sought to deflect attention from the Prime Minister, putting the blame for Labour's poor performance on the row over MPs' expenses which, she said, had hit the party particularly hard.

"Our supporters are absolutely furious with us about expenses," she said. "They expect us to have higher standards than the Tories."

Labour Chief Whip Nick Brown challenged Labour rebels weighing the prospects for a leadership challenge to either make their move or rally behind the Prime Minister.

"The time has come for them to nominate their candidate, see if they've got sufficient nominations and take the issue to a party conference," he told the BBC. "If they can't do that, they should get behind the leadership that the overwhelming majority of party members support."

seems like Brown has been on the down hill slide since at least the visit to Obama...you remember where he was dismissed like a third world supplicant..
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2009, 09:56:38 pm »

Where is Kelda when we need her?

Both major parties in Britain would be considered left of center using American standards. The most leftist is the Labour Party which is the UK's socialist party. The socialists are suffering set backs not only in the UK and elsewhere in the EU.

Funny thing, eventually socialism just doesn't create a vibrant dynamic economy that creates new jobs and rapid economic growth. You would think that lesson would have been permanently learned when the full failure of the East Bloc became clear in the 1970's and 1980's, but here we seem to be turning to the Obama version of socialism. Pity! 

I guess socialism is a bit like mildew on the tiles, you just have to keep spraying chlorox on it forever.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2009, 10:02:50 pm »

Where is Kelda when we need her?

Both major parties in Britain would be considered left of center using American standards. The most leftist is the Labour Party which is the UK's socialist party. The socialists are suffering set backs not only in the UK and elsewhere in the EU.

Funny thing, eventually socialism just doesn't create a vibrant dynamic economy that creates new jobs and rapid economic growth. You would think that lesson would have been permanently learned when the full failure of the East Bloc became clear in the 1970's and 1980's, but here we seem to be turning to the Obama version of socialism. Pity! 

I guess socialism is a bit like mildew on the tiles, you just have to keep spraying chlorox on it forever.

ok so it is taking them twenty plus years to figure this out..and we are half way down that road...so we can assume another twenty years before WE wake up?
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2009, 10:07:13 pm »

ok so it is taking them twenty plus years to figure this out..and we are half way down that road...so we can assume another twenty years before WE wake up?

back in the late 1970's early 80's Margaret Thatcher moved Britain away from a great deal of the authoritarian socialism that had come into law after WWII, and the UK then boomed economically for over a decade. but during the past 10 years a lot of her reforms were dismantled as the UK was joined the EU and became "europeanized" - and they are now again feeling the pinch.

like I say, socialism is like mildew, keep the "germicide spray" handy at all times.  Angry
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

back in the late 1970's early 80's Margaret Thatcher moved Britain away from a great deal of the authoritarian socialism that had come into law after WWII, and the UK then boomed economically for over a decade. but during the past 10 years a lot of her reforms were dismantled as the UK was joined the EU and became "europeanized" - and they are now again feeling the pinch.

like I say, socialism is like mildew, keep the "germicide spray" handy at all times.  Angry

jeez...people cant' be taught...
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